February 11, 2013

Time to rope a Pope

The anti-woman, anti-gay, pedophile-hiding Pope is said to be resigning because of ill health, but note these parting words:

'I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only by words and deeds but no less with prayer and suffering.

'However, in today's world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to govern the barque of St. Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary - strengths which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me.'

How much relative role health and scandal played in the Pope's sudden resignation remains to be seen,but stay tuned.


Anonymous said...

The last pope to quit the job said that the role of Pope was inconsistent with that of being a good Christian. He was subsequently hunted down, imprisoned, and ultimately killed by the successor pope.

It seems that Benedict's main qualification for becoming Pope was his orchestration of the cover-up of sex abuse. Let's see if the new Pope feels the need to hush him up in the old style.

Louis Massano said...

One very grand papal funeral is in the offing soon, and this pope's statement in his resignation that he's frail will no doubt have the major networks scrambling for space in Vatican City to televise it.

One story I saw on Yahoo news raised the question of what to do with a retired pope. But six hours ago, there was another news article (on a Catholic news site) stating that he will retire to a cloistered monastery within the Vatican.

I doubt, however, that this man will take up the simple garb of the cloistered monks seen (for example) in that 160 minute 2005 German film, "Into Great Silence," which has been surprisingly popular on Netflix, and which got rave a rave review from the very worldly A.O. Scott of the New York Times.

This pope likes Prada loafers; I doubt he'll take in his old age to sandals with rope thongs and a robe and cowl made of sackcloth.

It may be that he will be the first pope to retire to a cloistered life since Pope John XVII, who left the papacy in 1009. The short wikipedia item on him says he "abdicated." Why, I wonder, are they saying that this pope "retired" instead of saying that he "abdicated?"

Incidentally, the book about the Vatican and its many scoundrel popes which is a classic and still a lot of fun to read is E.R. Chamberlain's "The Bad Popes," from 1969.

Bertrand Russell once wrote that "Protestants like to be good and invented their religion to keep themselves good, and Catholics like to be bad and invented their religion to keep their neighbors good."

This is vintage Russell: It makes protestants look priggish (he was raised by Methodist grand-parents) and it makes Catholics...well, I think I can write this as a lapsed Catholic educated in Catholics through college ...it makes Catholics look kinda dumb.

The remarkable thing is that when I've quoted this line to some of my very conservative Catholic friends, they've agreed with it entirely.

Mark Robinowitz said...

I saw the Vatican as a kid. It was very impressive. I hope Jesus comes back to chase the moneychangers out of the temple.


Yallop, David A. In God's Name: An Investigation into the Murder of Pope John Paul I. New York: Bantam Books, 1985. 388 pages.

David Yallop, a British author with four previous crime investigations to his credit, came to the attention of "highly-placed, secret sources within the Vatican" who convinced him to look into the September 1978 death of John Paul I. During his 33 days as pope, Albino Luciani's leadership and incorruptibility threatened certain interests in the Vatican. These interests were connected with Licio Gelli's P2 network, Michele Sindona, Roberto Calvi and the emerging Banco Ambrosiano scandal, the Mafia, Italian intelligence, and Freemasonry. It was becoming clear to Luciani that a major housecleaning was in order.
Yallop believes there was a plot, but after three years of investigation his evidence is still circumstantial. Security was minimal, access to the pope or to his food or medicine would not have been difficult, and it was a good bet that there would be no autopsy. The cause of death was reported as acute myocardial infarction, but Luciani's medical history makes this difficult to accept. Death was so sudden that the pope didn't even have time to press the alarm button a few inches from his hand, which seems unlikely. When Karol Wojtyla was elected pope the Vatican returned to business as usual. With John Paul II in control, even the Italian government was unable to get the Vatican to come clean on its role in the Banco Ambrosiano scandal.

Mjr_Dzaster said...

I haven't been a Catholic since I was nine years old. I do not consider myself a lapsed Catholic or attached to "that" religion in any way whatsoever. I don't believe in religion, especially organized Western religion based on Christianity or any of it's Jewish derivitives. Nothing against the Jews of course, seeing as how I am married to one very lovely, loving, caring, honest (too honest sometimes), compassionate (in some cases), Jewish lady. But then I don't place a whole lot of juice in the Jewish religions either.

I would say that I lean more towards a spiritual belief system where there IS no god to speak of at least not any god that sits in judgement of me or anyone else, like a lot of the world's population seems to think. And if there IS a god somewhere out there in the ethers, then I will find out when I pass from this physical form. But until then, no other person has any right to tell me that there IS a god, just because THEY believe such hogwash. I have every right to believe that there IS no such thing as a god, just like anyone else has the right to believe otherwise.

And those who say god speaks to them, well I could say, good for them. But I don't hear any god speaking to me, and I cannot hear any god speaking to those who claim to hear the "word" of this so-called god...therefore, you have no right to tell me how to live my life, or how to behave, or anything else for that matter. Look how corrupt the Catholic church is. It's disgusting! But it is no different with ANY corporation in existence today...only the Vatican has been corrupt for centuries!

It amazes me that people can be so gullible and so easily manipulated by such an illegitimate criminal organization such as ANY religious group that exists out there today. What are people SO afraid of? People are SO superstitious and spiritually blind.

My Jewish mother-in-law says "If you're not Catholic anymore, then you must be Christian then, right?" Oh my was I thrown by that one. I had to tell her that "No. I am NOT a Christian. I am nothing of the sort. I believe that most religions are hypocritical money-grubbing, facades who should pay their fair share in taxes, just like everyone else. Nor do I like being considered a gentile. It just sounds offensive and makes me feel that you look down on me, like I am lessor than a Jewish person." My wife had warned her mother not to talk to me about religion, that she was stepping into territory where she shouldn't go. She dropped the subject and so far, I have not been dragged into anymore debates about what I am when it comes to religious affiliation...yeesh, that just gives me the willies.

If people want to believe that there is a god watching over them, cool...good for them, but please, keep your religion to yourselves. What irks me the most is religions that try and recruit new sheeple. It actually pisses me off when a "believer" accosts me with THEIR need to PUSH THEIR silly belief system on to ME. Keep your religious beliefs off of me, off of my daughter and out of my kid's schools. There's a REASON for the Separation of Church and State. Let's keep it that way.

See, aborting a fetus to me is not murder. It's terminating a cellular growth that you do not WANT to have turn into a full-blown human being. I believe that if we have souls, then certainly they do not enter the body until the very moment of birth itself. Therefore, how can you be murdering that growth. Even the medical terminology for a pregnant woman is considered as a tumor. Ask any doctor. It may seem outrageous to some conservative religious wackos, but that is how the medical establishment views pregnancy.