December 18, 2012

Some comments of the day

Guns

You gun owners are living in a fantasy world where you are some hero who shoots up the bad guy and saves the day. You won't rise up against the military, you won't stand up to local police forces, and you're more likely to kill a loved one with your gun than a bad guy. It's cute that you have images of local militias repelling the federal government, but between the military and the private contractors, you're toast if you do anything. Have you seen the guns they have? Wake up, cavemen. The cell phone is the new gun. Learn how to use one. Sam pointed out awhile ago that a handful of lawyers with fax machines did more to take over the world than the armies of yesteryear. Things have changed. The police state is as bad as it's ever been. Where have you gun owners been up until now? Whose rights have you championed other than your own?

"You have one tenth the chance of being killed in New Hampshire as you do in Louisiana"

Texas, a state with as least as many knuckle-dragging pistol-packing yahoos as Louisiana, has a murder rate less than half its neighbor's. What's your spin on that? Note, also, the table at the bottom of the page which shows the national rate has been falling since 1992, when concealed-carry laws began to be enacted. WTF?

What it tells me is that Mark Twain was right about statistics, their uses and abuses. BTW, I do not and never have felt the need to own a firearm. -  B.L. Sachs, Austin

Dancing to "Take Five"

Why it's hard to dance to Brubeck's 'Take Five'? --- Because it's soulless white jazz that doesn't swing — regardless of the time signature. - MonkeyMuffins

6 comments:

Capt. America said...

Guns...

Just a thought. Why not restrict gun ownership to active and reserve members of the militia, the national guard? Cops, and all others would have to sign up, get training, pass mental tests, etc., according to a system of military regulations rather than laws. Let's see the Supreme Court do an end run around that one.

Anonymous said...

The NG isn't the descendent of the militia.

The militia when the Second Amendment was written was made up of civilians, and their companies were comparable to volunteer fire departments.

The NG is a sort of "reserve Reserve": they get paid, and they can be punished for not showing up when ordered.

Capt. America said...

On the contrary, the NG is clearly the only state militia we've got. The active duty military has changed too. Troops can be drafted instead of simply grabbed and impressed as George Washington did. So what? If you want to own a gun, sign up. Of course you could be called up. You can be anyway.

The more I consider it, the better I like it.

Anonymous said...

On the contrary, the NG is clearly the only state militia we've got.

Nope. The "unorganised militia" (10 USC § 311) is much closer to being the spiritual descendent of the original militias.

John Parker's company was composed of the farmers and shopkeepers in and around the village of Lexington. Other militia companies were centered on the villages of Concord, Woburn, etc.

There were no militia companies organised at a higher level, and the key point is that militia members were civilians who could not be punished, except by social disapproval, for not showing up. That made them distinctly different to the National Guard despite the obfuscation intended by calling the NG a militia.

Historical records suggest that only about 40 of Parker's company were there for the confrontation on Lexington Green. More arrived later, to take part in "Parker's Revenge" on the redcoats returning from their futile expedition to Concord.

Capt. America said...

The revolutionary militia was clearly not well organized, as you indicate. The constitution specifies a well organized militia, which the National Guard is. More or less. Your argument, unfortunately, would probably appeal to the majority of the Supreme Court, but it makes no sense nonetheless.

Anonymous said...




Thomas Jefferson was a prolific letter writer. A good body of his correspondence remains available to us for examination and perhaps some gleaning. Of relevance to the discussion above is an except from Jefferson to his nephew Dabney Carr:

"In order to assure a certain progress in this reading, consider
what hours you have free from the school and the exercises
of the school. Give about two of them every day to exercise;
for health must not be sacrificed to learning. A strong body
makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercise, I
advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the
body, it gives boldness, enterprize, and independance to the
mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature,
are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the
mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks. Never think of taking a book with you. The
object of walking is to relax the mind. You should therefore
not permit yourself even to think while you walk. But divert
your attention by the objects surrounding you. Walking is
the best possible exercise. Habituate yourself to walk very
far."
http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3954&context=fss_papers